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Lloyd: It’s been too long!
For someone who travels to the coast several times a year for weeks at a time as well as having viewer funded shroom excursions, to make this assertion is being quite disingenuous. Right on the heels of another Patreon drop no less.
Keep this in mind when you hear his next appeal for money. At least the likes of Jim Jones and David Miscavige would have staged photos of them helping in the kitchen of some exotic locations.
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Ticked up one to 333, so this month’s freefall is done. As he inches down to 300 and below, look for yet another begging stunt, this time threatening to quit altogether.
Also be on the lookout for another crowdfunding effort for the TRA 2nd edition and the “sequel”. He’ll claim translation costs and other BS expenses that we all know have been provided free of charge. If one doesn’t believe that, then ask yourself why is the language German and not Portuguese or Spanish which have the second and third highest JW populations with Brazil and Mexico?
The grift continues, but more and more people are coming to the understanding that he can do this on the side like the others, especially since he has less content than the other main producers.
PS - Thanks www.lloydevans.info and Nic’. Don’t ask me how I know, but it IS making a difference.
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That's exactly why he hangs around exJWs - the vulnerable people leaving the WTS are easy picking for a predator to take advantage of.
It’s so off-the-wall insane what he has been involved in and what he has gotten away with, that assuming he’s still around 5-10 years from now, people are going to continue to find it hard to believe it’s true. In all likelihood he’s the last exJW activist superstar. No one is going on the all-expense paid tours he went on, and he’s certainly not going on them anymore due to no one comping him for the full cost of travel, significantly lower turnout and high probability he’s going to be confronted. The earthquake fund that earned enough to purchase his family a home, the 10K AUD he conned someone out of so he could blow off interviews to take his family on tours - all gone and never to be repeated.
I am not throwing shade at anyone in particular, but it always boggled my mind how such a vain and arrogant slob could ever gain such a following and support. He openly wrote about a sex scandal involving cheating on his wife and then had the nerve to say everyone was obsessing about his penis. He’s the one who brought it up and kept talking about it! And to hear such intimate details from a guy who looked like he did wasn’t a wise move. People were surprised he got caught cheating on his wife with hookers and didn’t believe it at first? Did they read his book about how any fleeting contact with a woman got him all aroused thinking they were into him? And all the shit he dished out to others on social media…
The same patterns emerged. People in the org had bad things to say about a CO, elder or GB member in private, but went along with it because of the “good” they were doing. Kept writing the cheques to place in the contribution box even though the CO’s talk rubbed them the wrong way. Such it was with Lloyd I guess. A huge reason why I never liked him was that I absolutely despised the ones in power who thought they could wield it in the JWs. I was present at a Ted Jaracz talk once and I thought he was quite the prick.
Lloyd reminds me a lot of Ted now that I think of it.
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He never expected to see the day that the numbers would swing back against him.This is a huge reason why he had misplayed this from the beginning. Let’s be honest here - it was a huge invasion of privacy. Most scandals are. He’s just dead wrong about the implications behind the revelations and felt that the outcry and victimhood he would claim as a result of private information being leaked would outweigh the real reason why this was a scandal of epic proportions.
Consider for a moment - Tampongate. Did the British people absolutely need to know that their future King made a disgusting and perverted comment to Camilla Parker-Bowles about being her tampon? No…. But did they deserve to know that their future King was carrying on an intimate affair with a married woman whilst betraying their future (and beloved) Queen? Absolutely. This is a guy who is in every way is representing them. On currency, internationally, and even has a weekly meeting with the PM on policy.
Did exJWs need to know all the sordid details about the collapse of Lloyd and Dijana’s marriage? Likewise - no. But in the big picture of things, one must consider this - he was fundraising off her and accepting earthquake relief money on hers and the girl’s behalf. How much did that earthquake fund go towards his Thailand trip? It was supposed to be used for his promised family home in Istria - something he emotionally blackmailed her with after she asked for the divorce - when the money was half hers by all rights.
The reasons why exJWs needed to know the full truth about the entire affair are:
Yet there exists a Charles III while Lloyd is no longer by any stretch of the imagination considered a representative of exJWs. Why? Charles didn’t go on a drunken livestream after Tampongate, admit to the entire conversation, relating how he thought of being Camilla Parker-Bowles’ tampon every 2-3 months for 3-4 years. He didn’t blurt out that Diana didn’t please him sexually. He didn’t threaten baseless lawsuits against the radio operator and media outlets after he fully admitted what was said and added more.
Charles “shut the fuck up and got off social media”. Lloyd gave the biggest sob story, implicated himself further, then contradicted himself by backing off some admissions, and then sued 7 foreigners in a podunk Croatian court using absolutely moronic pseudo-legal reasoning.A book can be written about this - it’s so indicative of how one can be so consumed by his initial success.
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He still can’t get his head round the fact that a woman outsmarted him. Figured all women were made out of the same clay Dijana was - easily molded to whatever purpose he intended for them. If anyone ever dared to cross him, his band of Cedarites would regulate… right? February - March 2022 was such a wild ride on Twitter. For every loud Lloyd supporter there would be four or five calling out their bullshit. He never expected it and assumed they’d bully every contrary voice off social media. He was even swearing up and down to Andrew Gold that his detractors were such a huge minority… until the video went live and Gold couldn’t find more than two Cedarites in the chat defending him. He got completely exposed and humiliated. That failure had to have fucked with his head a bit. I think I’d take the shrooms too if people googled my name and found a bunch of “penis mastery” and Jabba the Hutt memes, along with a tonne of threads, blogs and videos all made with relatively minimum effort that completely embarrassed me.
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Is that his real hair?
It is. And it was done on purpose. I say that because Jabba the Hutt is being pretty sensitive about it.
Those comments are fucking nuts. Many are actually commending him on the hair, and here’s one who thinks he’s still married. Or gay. Take your pick.
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He hasn't gained any new patreons this month & kept them.
At this time last year he had a huge momentum swing in his favour after the begging stunts. He could have ridden that wave of goodwill by appearing to take the high ground, not respond to any criticism and “churn” out an amazing amount of content with Tibor at his side. He chose another path.
He was openly gloating about being immune from exJW BS in a tweet that did not age well and had popped into the comments on a livestream bragging about how he was untouchable. It was even more brutal in the comment section on his own videos. Lloyd the Bully had shown his fat face yet again.
Then he went on holiday and the frequency of videos actually decreased despite having over 250 new pledges.
In hindsight that was his last opportunity to turn it all around. He had an open net and could have kicked the easy goal. Instead he showboated it, attempted some fancy trick and missed wide.
It wasn’t about “saving lives” or even improving the content. Per usual his huge ego got into the way and people started seeing right through what he was all about. Again. An entirely new generation has arrived and noticed how this guy is making a few videos a month, droning on about shrooms and his comedy routines and always taking time to go on holiday (and then making a video about what he did on holiday). That is not conducive to gaining the amount of financial support he desires. In fact it demonstrates that he isn’t putting what he is getting now to the best use.
Lloyd Evans never misses an opportunity to prove to everyone that all the critiques about him are by and large true. What an incredibly arrogant and selfish dolt.
we've got some really knowledgeable members on here so i have a question for them and everybody.
what was the earliest adjective used to describe the snake of genesis 3:1?
currently one can read words in english translations like 'cunning' and 'crafty'....but in other languages you see words like 'wise' and astute...which convey a completely different idea.. i'm wondering what may have been the earliest and most accurate adjective known or used.
Read the Book of Jubilees. Interesting read and it picks up some of the gaps Genesis laid blank. In Eden all animals had the ability to speak, and only lost that ability after the expulsion from Eden. It would seem to explain why Eve didn’t seem to think a serpent speaking to her was a big deal.
Not arguing for or against the validity of these accounts, but my question has always been why is Genesis considered canon and not Jubilees? Both make some fairly bold and fantastic claims.
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"Channel consultants" huh?
Lloyd’s huge on bestowing significant sounding titles upon things that aren’t that significant. He’ll feign interest at whatever his “channel consultant” suggests, but he’s already decided upon what he is going to do and when. He’s also huge because he eats too much and doesn’t work, but that’s another story. OK - one more - A former collaborator of his ate with him at a buffet and described him as “eating like a pig”. Several plates, all full.
This is also a man who gave himself the title of Director and President of the JLE Translation Services when “Native English Proofreader” would have been more appropriate.
He's likely tapping some people for money directly.
Indeed he is, and he has made that fact clear, especially when he listed “PayPal - Most Urgent” on one of his begging tweets. He’s been advertising his PayPal credentials ever since he was on this forum begging for money to start JW Survey. There was also the unnamed donor who sent him a shit-tonne of money supposedly to keep the channel running before the begging stunts.
There have been some significant PayPal donors who have dropped, most notably Truth Seeker Atheist who made a video disowning him and his shenanigans. I know of a few more who have made monthly donations who have quietly stopped.
That he still retains some such donors should be of no surprise, though his main problem is he now has a reputation for not really needing the money as he once did, the loss of a major emotional manipulation for his fundraising - his wife and children, and not least his known penchant for spending what is donated on himself for luxury items.
Oh, and cheap hookers.
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I had been wondering what the split was of patrons in the various levels, since that would determine how well he was doing financially.
$10 or more a month gets you on the outro screen on his videos. There have been 145 on there and it stays fairly constant so that pretty much represents his core base. That means 213 are at $1 or $5 per month.
At very least that’s $213 per month. Adding in the $5 donors might bump it up to $500 or so.
Then you have the 145 who are pledging $10 or more and it’s imposible to know the breakdown beyond that.
It’s a safe bet he makes enough to live semi-comfortably in Zagreb. I say that because I have serious doubts about him paying child support, and if he does, it’s a token amount and Dijana doesn’t seem like one to push him for more. This was a guy who was bitching about paying for his daughter’s haircut, so he’s been reduced to pinching pennies. He’s also one who is prone to conceal his income to the court and claim poverty.
Welp! Par for the course when you marry a low-life narcissistic scumbag like Jabba the Hutt. All the best for her if she is pursuing this in court, but knowing the personality of both individuals, this is an amicable arrangement between the two and he’s paying her (if anything) as little as he can get away with.
But he’s a good man! And a father! Keep those pledges coming in, he’s busy saving lives with three videos a month!
